June 2nd, 1945.

Lansburg prison, Bavaria, Germany.

The war in Europe [music] had been over for 25 days.

The celebrations had happened.

The photographs had been taken.

The soldiers who were going home had begun the long administrative process of going home.

And the soldiers who were staying had begun the longer administrative process of managing a conquered country whose infrastructure [music] had been destroyed and whose governing apparatus had been criminal.

The lights in the prison yard came on at 0430.

They were not the lights of celebration.

They were work lights.

The practical illumination required for a specific task that the army needed to complete before dawn became full day.

And the witnesses arrived and the thing became something that happened in front of people rather than something that happened in the early dark.

General SS Oberg group and furer Carl Heinrich Drier had been awake [music] since midnight.

Not because he couldn’t sleep.

He had slept surprisingly well for the 3 [music] weeks since his tribunal.

Not because he was afraid, though fear was present in the room with him in the way it is always present in rooms like this.

He had been awake since midnight because at some point in the small hours he had made a decision about what the next few hours were going to look like.

He had decided he was going to be honest.

Not in the way that men are honest when they want something.

When honesty is a strategy, a calculation, a way of managing an audience, in the way that men are honest, when there is nothing left to manage, when the audience no longer matters because the performance has ended and what remains is simply the truth sitting in the room with you and the question of whether you are going to acknowledge it before the lights come on.

Drier had commanded an SS Einat Groupa mobile killing unit in the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1943.

His tribunal had lasted 4 days.

the evidence, testimony from survivors, documentation signed in his handwriting, operational reports that described the systematic murder of civilian populations in terms that left no ambiguity about what had been done and who had ordered it had taken slightly less than 4 days to present.

[bell] The verdict had taken 2 hours in his cell in the dark before the lights came on.

He had arrived at something that he had spent 3 years not arriving at.

And when the guards came for him, and the priest who had been assigned to him, walked at his side through the corridor, and the door opened onto the prison yard, where the light was already up, and the gallows were already built, and the witnesses were already assembled.

When all of that became the present moment rather than the anticipated one, he said something not to the guards, not to the witnesses, not to the army chaplain walking beside him, though the chaplain heard it and recorded it and is the reason we know it was said at all.

He said it quietly to himself, or perhaps to something that was neither himself nor any of the people in that yard.

And the chaplain, who had spent 20 years listening to what people said when they had run out of reasons to say anything other than the truth, wrote it down in his journal that night.

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To understand what Drier said in that yard, you need to understand what 4 days of tribunal testimony had put in front of him because his final words were not spontaneous.

They were the product of something that had been happening to him slowly over those four days as the evidence was presented with the bureaucratic precision that American military law required.

Drier had entered the tribunal in the posture that SS officers typically adopted in those proceedings.

The posture of a soldier who had followed orders in a war and who was now being judged by the standards of his enemies.

It was a posture with a logic.

The logic said, “I operated within a chain of command.

The orders I received had the authority of the state behind them.

The acts I performed were consistent with the military and political framework within which I served.

You may call them crimes.

I call them orders.

This posture had a legal strategy attached to it.

The defense attorneys, American officers appointed to represent the accused because American military justice required representation even for men charged with the systematic murder of civilians.

Built their case around the orderf following framework.

They challenged the admissibility of documents.

They questioned the reliability of survivor testimony.

They argued that the evidentiary standard for conviction was not met.

The tribunal proceeded methodically through the evidence.

The first day covered the operational structure of Drier’s unit, its organization, its chain of command, its geographic area of operations in the occupied Soviet Union.

The documents presented were primarily German official reports, operational summaries, administrative correspondence, documents that Drier’s own unit had produced in the careful bureaucratic language of an institution that treated mass murder as an administrative function.

Drier’s name appeared in those documents repeatedly, not as a bystander.

As the author, as the officer who had signed the authorizations, reviewed the numbers, submitted the operational summaries to his superiors.

The second day covered specific operations.

The tribunal presented evidence about nine separate mass executions, events at specific locations on specific dates in which specific numbers of people had been killed.

The numbers in the German documents were precise.

The Germans had been precise about everything.

They had counted the dead the way accountants count inventory because the operation had been conceived as an administrative problem and had been managed with administrative tools.

The third day brought survivors.

This was the day that the tribunal heard from the people who had been in the places where the documents said the killings had happened and who had not died and who were now sitting in a room in Bavaria describing in careful, quiet, devastated language what had happened to the people around them.

Drier had listened to survivor testimony before in the preliminary proceedings in the pre-tribunal hearings.

He had maintained his posture through those sessions with the particular discipline of a man who has decided what his position is and intends to hold it.

On the third day, something changed, not visibly, not in a way that the observers recorded.

He did not break.

He did not weep.

He did not say anything during the proceedings that deviated from the legal strategy his attorneys had constructed.

But the chaplain who met with him that evening described a man who was sitting differently in the room than he had been sitting the day before.

The chaplain wrote, “I cannot describe it precisely.

The posture was the same.

The expression was similar, but the quality of his attention had changed.

He was not defending himself inside anymore.

He was listening.

” The fourth day was the verdict.

Between the verdict and the execution, Drier had 22 days.

The chaplain met with him every morning.

He was not required to Drier had not specifically requested a chaplain, and the initial meetings had been brief, professional.

The formal offering of pastoral care to a condemned man who had not indicated he wanted it.

Drier had not sent him away.

The chaplain, Captain James Aldrich, a Methodist minister from Ohio, who had been serving as an Army chaplain since 1942, and who had performed this specific function of accompanying condemned men through their final weeks, more times than he had expected to when he accepted the commission, described the evolution of those meetings in the journal he kept throughout his service.

The first week was silence mostly.

Dryer would sit.

Aldrich would sit.

Occasional brief exchanges about the weather, about the food, about nothing that touched anything real.

Aldrich had learned not to push.

The men who found their way to honesty in those final weeks always found it themselves.

The chaplain’s job was to be present and patient and not to require anything.

The second week, Drier began talking about his career, not about the killings, about the earlier years, the VHimar period when he had been a young officer in a diminished German military navigating the chaos of a defeated country.

The early Nazi period when the ideology had presented itself as the answer to a specific set of problems that were real.

the economic collapse, the political disorder, the humiliation of Versailles.

He described his entry into the SS not as a choice made in full awareness of what the institution would become, but as a sequence of smaller choices, each one defensible in isolation, each one drawing him deeper into something whose full character he had understood only gradually.

He was not asking for sympathy.

Aldrich noted this specifically.

He was not constructing an argument for mitigation.

He was doing something different.

He was tracing the path backward, trying to find the specific points at which he could have turned and hadn’t.

The third week, he stopped talking about himself.

He started talking about the people in the documents, not the survivors, the dead, the numbers in the operational summaries, the precise counts that his unit had submitted with bureaucratic regularity.

He had stopped thinking of them as numbers, which was what the posture had required, and had started thinking of them as what they were.

People who had been alive, who had names his documents hadn’t recorded, who had had children whose names his documents hadn’t recorded.

Aldrich wrote, “He said to me on the 19th day that he had spent three years not thinking about them as people that the administrative structure of the operation had been specifically designed to make not thinking about them as people possible.

that this was not an accident of bureaucratic language but the deliberate purpose of it to convert people into numbers so that the people doing the converting could maintain a specific kind of distance from what they were doing.

He said the language worked.

That is the confession.

The language worked and I used it and I let it work on me because I needed it to work.

I knew what was underneath the language.

I signed the documents, but I stayed inside the language and I did not look underneath it.

And now I am here and the language has stopped working.

And I am looking underneath it for the first time.

And what is underneath it is what I always knew was there.

What was underneath it, the people.

Drier spent the final days in the particular silence of a man who has arrived at a truth he cannot do anything with.

June 2nd, 04:30.

The guard who opened his cell door described him as already dressed, already standing.

The posture was the same one he had maintained through the tribunal.

the career officer’s posture, the habit of decades that does not relax easily, even in a prison cell, even on the last morning.

He had written two letters the previous evening, one to his wife, one to his daughter, who was 17 years old.

The letters were reviewed by the prison authorities, standard procedure, and were subsequently delivered.

Their contents were not recorded in any official document.

The chaplain who was present when Drier sealed them did not describe their contents.

He described only that Drier had written them with a care and deliberateness that suggested he had known what he wanted to say and had taken his time saying it.

They walked the corridor together.

Aldrich on his left, a guard on his right, another guard behind.

The corridor was stone, and the sound of four people walking it was the sound of the early morning’s only real noise.

Dryer said nothing in the corridor.

The door to the yard opened.

The yard was lit.

The light had that particular quality of artificial light in a space that should be dark, overbrite, slightly wrong.

The shadows falling in directions that felt unnatural.

The gallows were at the far end of the yard.

The witnesses, army officers required to be present for the official record, stood along the wall to the right.

The officer commanding the execution stood near the gallows.

Drier walked across the yard.

He stopped at the designated position.

The officer read the formal statement, the name, the charges, the verdict, the sentence.

standard procedure.

The words that converted a man into a case number and then into a historical record.

The officer asked if the condemned had a final statement.

Drier was quiet for a moment.

He was looking at the sky above the prison walls.

The sky in early June in Bavaria is beginning to lighten at 04:30.

Not fully light, but not fully dark.

the particular gray of before dawn when the darkness has given way but the day has not yet arrived.

Then he spoke not to the witnesses, not to the commanding officer, to the chaplain who was standing 4t to his left and who had his notebook in his jacket pocket and who wrote down what was said that night.

He said it in German.

The chaplain recorded it in German and translated it himself in the journal entry he wrote that evening.

The translation is careful and qualified.

Aldrich notes twice in the journal that he was not a fluent German speaker and that the translation may not capture every nuance of what was said.

He says he believes it captures the substance.

This is what he recorded.

I have been thinking about what I believed, not what I said I believed.

I said many things over many years that I said with conviction and that I now understand I said because the saying was required and because I had arranged myself to say them what I actually believed.

the thing underneath the language.

I believe that the people we killed were not the same kind of thing as the people who were killing them.

I believe this with the completeness that I could not examine while I was inside it.

The way you cannot see the room you are standing in if all the windows are painted over.

This was the fundamental act.

Everything else, every document, every order, every summary was the consequence of that one belief.

I know now that the belief was wrong, not in the way that an argument is wrong, where you can see the logical error and correct it and arrive at a different conclusion.

Wrong in the way that a thing is wrong when it has no truth in it at all.

There was nothing true in it.

There was never anything true in it.

I built an entire life inside a lie that was designed to look like a truth.

And I did not look at it directly because looking at it directly was not something I was willing to do.

The people in those documents were the same kind of thing as the people signing those documents.

This is what I know now.

This is what I knew and did not acknowledge and did not act on and chose instead to stay inside the language that made the knowing unnecessary.

I cannot give them back what I took.

There is no giving back.

There is only this, which is to say it out loud in this yard before whatever comes next, that I knew, that I chose not to know.

That the difference between those two things is the distance between a man who did wrong and a man who chose to do wrong, and I was the second kind.

I would like to say that I am sorry.

I understand that the word is insufficient.

I say it anyway because it is the only word available to me and because the alternative to say nothing to maintain to the end the posture that none of this was what it was is the thing I am least willing to do with the time I have left.

I am sorry I knew I chose.

He stopped.

The chaplain wrote he did not look at me when he finished.

He looked at the sky again.

The light was beginning in the east.

I could see it over the wall.

He watched it for what felt like a long time.

Then he turned and walked to the gallows without being directed.

I have been present at 11 of these proceedings since the tribunal work began.

I have heard men pray, men argue, men maintain their innocence until the last second.

Men say nothing at all.

I have not heard anything like what I heard in that yard this morning.

I do not know what to do with it except to write it down.

James Aldrich finished his service in Germany in December 1945.

He returned to Ohio.

He resumed his ministry.

He did not publish his journal during his lifetime.

He made no effort to bring it to public attention, filed no account with military archives, gave no interviews about his work with the condemned at Lansburg.

His daughter found the journal in 1987, 3 years after his death.

She recognized that it contained something that belonged outside the family’s possession.

She contacted a military historian at Ohio State University who had been working on the documentation of American military tribunal proceedings in postwar Germany.

The historian read the journal.

He described his reaction in the preface to the documentary collection he eventually published which included Aldrich’s account.

I have read thousands of pages of testimony, confession, and postverdict statement from men processed through the American military tribunal system in Germany between 1945 and 1949.

Most of what condemned men say at the end of their proceedings is what you would expect: denial, bargaining, self-justification, or silence.

The account James Aldrich recorded from Drier is unusual in the documentary record because it is none of those things.

It is an acknowledgment of the specific moral act that underlies the larger crime.

The act of choosing not to know what you know.

I have found no comparable statement in the material I have reviewed.

The journal was donated to the archive in 1989.

The account of the execution morning occupies six pages.

Patton was not present at the execution.

He was in Bavaria during this period, still commanding the occupation before his relief in October 1945.

But the tribunal proceedings and executions at Lansburg were administered by the judge advocate general’s office and did not require his presence or his oversight.

He knew they were happening.

He had been at Orroo.

He had walked through Deco.

He understood better than most American generals what the tribunal work was processing and what the executions at Lansburg were closing the account on.

His diary from this period contains brief references to the tribunal proceedings, not detailed ones.

He was dealing with the administrative enormity of occupying a destroyed country and the tribunal work was one of many simultaneous processes.

But when he does mention it, the references are consistent in their character.

He does not celebrate the executions.

He does not express satisfaction at them.

He expresses something closer to the same quality that appears in the December 8th diary entry.

A reckoning, an acknowledgment that what was being done was necessary and that necessary and satisfying are not the same category.

he wrote in an entry from early June 1945.

The tribunal work continues, “The evidence in some of these proceedings is of a character that I find it difficult to describe.

Not because it surprises me.

I walked through Ordruff and I know what was done, but because the bureaucratic precision of it is something that a soldier has no real framework for.

Soldiers kill people.

These men organized the killing of people the way a factory organizes production.

There is a difference between those two things that I cannot fully articulate but that I feel with complete certainty.

Whatever justice looks like in these cases, I think it requires that the articulation be attempted.

Whatever justice looks like in these cases, he did not resolve the sentence.

He left it open.

the tribunal work was attempting the articulation he described.

Whether it succeeded, whether the executions at Lansburg constituted the justice he was gesturing toward is a question that legal philosophers and historians have been working on since 1945.

What is certain is that the attempt was made, that the evidence was heard, that the men who had signed the documents were placed in a room and made to confront what the documents described, that some of them, not all, not most, but some, were changed by the confrontation in ways they had not been changed by anything that had come before.

Drier was one of the some.

Whether that change constitutes justice for the people in the documents is not a question this story can answer.

It is the question the story leaves behind.

There is a tradition in almost every culture that has thought seriously about accountability for wrongdoing of the final statement.

Not the legal confession.

The confession that is made to manage consequences, to reduce sentences, to satisfy procedural requirements.

The other kind, the statement made when consequences are already fixed and the management has stopped and what remains is only the question of what is true and whether you are going to say it.

These statements are rare.

Most people facing the end of a life that has included serious wrongdoing choose one of the other options available to them.

Denial, justification, silence, the maintenance of the posture that got them through the preceding years.

The maintenance is understandable.

There is no reward for the final honesty.

The consequences are the same whether you say it or don’t.

The people you wronged are not present to hear it.

The statement does not restore what was taken or give back what was destroyed.

It does only one thing.

It acknowledges that something happened and that you were responsible for it.

This is in the frameworks of most serious moral traditions not nothing.

It is not sufficient.

It does not repay a debt that cannot be repaid.

Does not address a harm that cannot be addressed.

But it is not the same as the alternative.

The alternative is to take the lie into whatever comes next.

To maintain at the last possible moment the posture that insulated you from the truth of what you did.

Drier did not take the lie with him.

Whether this matters, whether it counts for anything in any framework of justice that is adequate to the scale of what he ordered is not a question with a clean answer.

The chaplain did not offer one.

He wrote down what happened and he lived with it for 40 years and he did not publish the journal because he did not know what publication would add that the writing hadn’t already done.

He was right to be uncertain.

The American military tribunal system that processed men like Drier in the years following World War II was not a perfect instrument.

It was constructed rapidly under unprecedented conditions to address a category of crime for which no legal framework had previously existed at the international level.

The Nuremberg principles, the legal doctrine that made it possible to try individuals for crimes against humanity were being developed simultaneously with the trials that were supposed to be applying them.

The defense argument that the accused had followed orders within a legal framework that existed at the time was a genuine legal argument, not simply a cynical evasion.

It was rejected rightly because the alternative, a world in which the systematic murder of civilians was immune from legal accountability if conducted by a state, was not a world that the postwar international order was willing to construct.

But rejecting the argument legally did not make its rejection philosophically simple.

What the tribunal system was attempting was something that had no precedent and that the legal tools available were not fully adequate to accomplish.

The conversion of an unprecedented historical crime into a manageable legal accounting.

The crime was not manageable.

It was not reducible to cases and verdicts and sentences without a remainder.

the remainder, the people in the documents, the numbers that were people, the specific and irretrievable specific of what was taken from them and from everyone who would have come after them.

The remainder sat outside every verdict and every sentence and every execution.

Patton understood this when he wrote whatever justice looks like in these cases.

Drier understood it when he said, “I cannot give them back what I took.

” The tribunal understood it in the gap between what the law could accomplish and what the crime required.

The executions at Lansburg were not justice in the sense of a debt repaid.

They were justice in the sense of an accounting attempted, a formal acknowledgment written into the historical record by the authority of the law, that what had been done was wrong, that the men who had done it bore individual responsibility for it, and that responsibility in the face of this scale of wrongdoing carried a specific consequence.

Whether that is enough, whether any formal accounting can be enough for what was done in those years is the question that has no resolution.

The chaplain knew it.

He wrote it down anyway.

James Aldrich wrote his account of the June 2nd execution on the evening of June 2nd.

He was specific about the time.

He began riding at 2100 hours.

He had spent the day doing what chaplain do after these proceedings, visiting other cells, attending to other men, doing the work that the work required.

He had not spoken about the morning to anyone during the day.

He wrote for 3 hours.

At the end of the account, after the transcript of Drier’s words and the description of the execution and the documentation of the official proceedings, he added a paragraph that is not analysis and not theology and not anything that fits a clean category.

He wrote, “I have been doing this work for 4 months.

I do not know what I expected when I accepted the assignment.

I think I expected the men in these cells to be a different kind of person than the men I had encountered elsewhere.

Different in a way that would make it easier to understand how they had done what the evidence said they had done.

They are not different.

That is the thing I cannot reconcile and cannot stop thinking about.

They are recognizable.

They are the kind of men I have known in other contexts.

men with families and careers and the ordinary texture of lives that contain reasonable choices alongside unreasonable ones.

What they did was not the product of a different kind of human being.

It was the product of ordinary human beings making specific choices inside specific structures that made the choices easier than they should have been.

Drier said, “I knew.

I chose.

” He said this as a confession.

I hear it as something broader.

As a description of how these things happen, not through monsters, through people, through the specific and repeated choice to stay inside a language that makes the knowing unnecessary.

I do not know what to do with that.

I write it down because I do not know what else to do with it.

He closed the journal.

He kept it for 40 years.

He did not resolve what was in it.

Neither have we.

The lights in the prison yard came on at 04:30.

They went off again after.

The yard is still there.

Lansburg prison is still a functioning facility.

It has housed at different points in its history.

Adolf Hitler writing minef the condemned men of the American tribunal proceedings and later German prisoners in the ordinary administrative sense.

History deposits things in buildings, and the buildings remain, and the deposits accumulate, and the walls hold all of it without comment.

What Drier said in that yard, I knew, I chose, is in a journal, in an archive in Ohio.

The people in the documents do not have equivalent archives.

Their names were not recorded.

Their words were not preserved.

Their lives were converted into numbers in operational summaries and the summaries were signed and the numbers were filed and the filing was complete and what remained was the remainder that no legal accounting can address.

What Drier’s final words add to that accounting is not adequate to it.

Nothing is adequate to it.

But the inadequate thing is still different from the nothing that silence would have been.

He said it out loud.

in a yard in Bavaria with the dawn beginning over the wall.

The chaplain wrote it down and now you know it.

The question that stays after the knowing is the question Aldrich could not resolve in 40 years of living with what he had heard.

Not through monsters, through people.

Through the specific and repeated choice to stay inside a language that makes the knowing unnecessary.

What is the language you live inside that makes your own knowing unnecessary? That is not a comfortable question.

It is not meant to be.

It is the question that the man who signed the documents in a prison yard in Bavaria asked himself 22 days before the lights came on.

He did not ask it soon enough.

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