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>> Well, she really is a form of a victim in all of this, too.

She’s had her life ripped to shreds as well.

>> She has, and you know, she starts as a victim, right? And then for every decision she makes since the arrest, it’s hard to blame her for all of it.

You know, the shock, trauma, desperation, processing this.

I don’t know that my decisions would be sound.

I don’t know that I would be able to trust my instincts about anything.

Um people think her participating in the documentary that the optics were poor there.

Maybe they were.

But maybe she was out of options.

It’s just really hard to judge her after the shock and trauma of these revelations that she was exposed to.

>> Let’s talk a bit about the sentencing that only happened a week ago from when we’re talking.

>> Yeah.

>> I want to start with Herman because we did hear briefly from him.

You mentioned the word cowardly before.

I feel like that kind of needs to be repeated again here with what he said, right? >> Yeah, so everyone was wondering whether or not he would speak because the defendant is often given that opportunity.

And when he said yes, everyone was surprised and he he began to speak and the judge yelled at him.

The judge was very intense and told him to stand up.

So then there was this like awkward 5 seconds where he’s like trying to stand up and he began speaking and he said something to the effect of, you know, and I’m paraphrasing, “My words have no meaning.

I am responsible for the words that were said today.

I’m going to leave it there.

” And he sat back down and the judge looked at him sort of annoyed and said, “You know, I know you’re probably sorry for what you put your family through, but are you a little sorry for what for murdering these innocent women?” And he sort of was like, “Yeah.

” But it was so hollow and strange.

It’s like, why say anything at all? I couldn’t understand.

>> Did he look remorseful at all? >> No, he does not care.

This man could not care less.

>> Yeah.

>> It’s not funny at all.

It’s just this man doesn’t care.

He would have done it a million more times.

After he murdered Melissa Bartholomew, he called to torture her family.

Like this guy loves hurting women.

And this guy does not feel bad about it.

It doesn’t matter that he has a daughter their age of when he was killing them.

It doesn’t matter that he’s married to a woman.

He doesn’t care.

>> In the sentencing, we also had the chance to hear from the victims.

That’s their chance to stand up and tell this man what they’ve done to their lives in the form of a victim impact statements.

Was that emotional hearing from so many family members in that courtroom? >> Yeah, it was unbelievable.

Um it was it was long, too.

It was, you know, I think there were about 16 total.

And yeah, some some made you like want to give them a high five cuz they just said the exact right thing that you know just hit him where it hurts.

You know, these men are narcissists.

Um so, one of the victims’ cousins, her name is Jasmine Robinson, basically went over the planning document that Rex Heuermann had written in 2000 about like, “Don’t leave DNA behind.

Don’t leave hair behind.

” And she’s like, “Well, you didn’t do that.

You couldn’t do that.

” And totally just like mocked him.

And you could tell he was getting like so mad.

Um but every single one was compelling.

Some made you cry.

Some made you furious for how articulate they were in explaining just the devastation um what this had done to their lives.

You know, Megan Waterman’s daughter spoke, and it’s just she lost her mom when she was two, and she is left with this like, “What Who would I have been? What would I have my my life have been like had I not had my mom ripped from me?” And I think that’s a really valid um question, and it’s so unfair.

>> I read that there was even applause when he was taken from the room.

>> Oh, there was more than that.

There was applause.

Um, there was applause.

There were screams from the family saying, “I can’t wait till you get raped in jail.

” Then they all started chanting ogre as he was walking out of the room.

And it was the whole thing was intense like that.

It was like the energy the entire hearing.

You know, one of the victims, um Melissa Bartholomew’s sister who received the calls the taunting calls that were made from her sister, her murdered sister’s phone, cuz he had her phone.

That’s how he called her family.

So, first it’s hope, right? She’s missing and now she’s calling me.

And um she said something like, “It’s been 17 years since we spoke.

” And then she’s like demanded that he look at her cuz he’s just been looking ahead like a coward.

Um there were a lot of intense moments during her during her impact statement, but it was very almost primal.

I don’t know how to explain it.

>> Is this over for you now? Do you think knowing that he is behind bars, he’s been sentenced with eight murders is this over for you? Because you know, we don’t know how many more there are out there.

You’ve been working on this case for so many years.

What does this mean for you? >> I don’t think it’s ever going to be over.

I think it’s part of who I am um because it’s not just about this killer and these victims, it’s about the way women are treated.

It’s about violence against women.

It’s about sex workers, the demonization of them and not the clients or the men who push them and force them and traffic them and make them do sex work, which is what was happening for the majority of these women, right? So, it’s never going to be over.

I’m always going to be speaking out about that.

And as long as there are victims I believe are connected to him like Asian Doll who haven’t seen justice I’ll always be monitoring and tracking.

Um, I wish I could do more.

You know, it’s kind of contingent upon what investigators do whether there’s any story left here.

So, I do feel like though this law enforcement team that has brought him to justice is phenomenal and I’m I’m sure they won’t stop if they believe he’s responsible for more.

But, it’s also not done for me because I have a book coming out about the case early next year.

So, I’m going to be probably talking about it for a while because like I said the implications it’s not him.

It’s society, you know, and I think that’s what I’m going to be talking about a lot.

>> Thank you so much Alexis.

We really appreciate your updates.

>> Of course.

>> Thank you to Alexis for joining us on this episode.

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