The formal confrontation from the board came about a month after my return.

A closed meeting, four of them and me in the small office at the back of the mosque.

Men I respected, men I had worked alongside, shared meals with, prayed with, trusted.

The meeting was conducted with care, and I want to be fair about that.

These were not hostile or unjust men, but someone had heard to from one of the worshippers who was present during the collapse, a more detailed account than the one that had been officially circulating.

Questions were being raised in the community.

They needed clarity.

I sat in that room for over 2 hours.

I was as honest as I could be without being more honest than I yet had the courage or the clarity to be.

I told them the experience had shaken me deeply and I was still processing it.

I told them I was reading widely, thinking carefully.

When they pressed about the words people had heard during the collapse, I gave them the medical explanation, the neurological effects of the arhythmia, the disorienting effect of oxygen deprivation on language and cognition.

This explanation was not false, but it was incomplete.

and sitting in that room using a true but incomplete explanation to protect myself all with four men watching me carefully who had trusted me for years.

That was one of the most uncomfortable hours I have spent in my life.

Not because they were doing anything wrong, because I was not being fully honest with men who deserved my honesty.

And I knew it.

and I could not see yet how to do differently.

The outcome of the meeting was that I would step back from leading the daily prayers for health reasons, they said, and they genuinely meant it as care for me.

The Friday sermon I could still do for now, but the five daily prayers would be led by the assistant imam.

It was presented gently and I received it gently.

It was also a removal from the center of my role and everyone in the room understood this even if no one said it plainly.

The first day I sat in the congregation for the afternoon prayer instead of standing at the front was the day the reality of it became fully physical.

I sat among the men I had led for 23 years, and I listened to another man’s voice fill the space I had filled for two decades.

And the absence of my own voice in that room was something I felt.

The way you feel a missing limb, not just as a loss of function, but as a wound in your own sense of what you are.

20 years.

My voice in that space five times a day.

The silence of it now was a kind of grief I had not anticipated and was not prepared for.

I sat in my car afterward in the car park and I put my forehead on the steering wheel and I cried.

the way I had cried when my father died from somewhere deep and old and not manageable.

I cried for the mosque, for the community.

I for my father who had sat in the front row and watched me lead and felt that his life had become something.

I cried for the 24year-old who had stood at that front for the first time with everything ahead of him.

I cried for all of it.

And then I sat up and I drove home.

And inside the grief there was I need to say this truthfully.

There was a quality of peace that I did not expect and could not account for.

Not comfort, not the absence of pain.

peace as if something was holding the pain rather than denying it.

Telling Fatima was what I had been most afraid of.

I had been circling that conversation for months, approaching it and retreating.

In the end, it happened simply the way the most important things often do.

We were in the kitchen.

It was late.

The girls were in bed and Tariq was out.

or she was making tea and she turned around and looked at me with the eyes that have never been able to be deceived by anything I have ever presented to them.

And she said she needed to know what was happening inside me.

She said she had been feeling something she couldn’t see and she needed to see it.

So I told her, not all at once, not with a full accounting of every internal movement of the past months, but the essential truth, the darkness and the presence in it, the reading of the injil, the meeting with Dr.

Ysef, the fact that I could not in honesty return to where I had been.

I told her these things, and I watched her face contain what it was hearing.

She was very still.

She is always very still when she is managing something large.

She didn’t speak for a long time when I stopped.

She stood with both hands flat on the kitchen counter and she looked at something internal, some landscape she was navigating quietly without any map.

And then she asked me one question.

She asked whether I was sure, not whether I had lost my mind, not whether I had been deceived, not whether I was ill, just was I sure.

And the way she asked it, the specificity of that question, the way she didn’t reach for the easier questions, told me that something in her was receiving this with a seriousness I hadn’t fully anticipated.

I told her I was sure, that I wished in some ways that I wasn’t, that I would have given a great deal to have gone back to our life and found it as whole as it used to feel, but that I was sure.

She went to bed without saying more.

What followed were days of a silence that was not hostile but was full.

Full of something she was processing privately that she was not ready to share.

I did not push her.

I had learned over 20 years of marriage that Fatima processes in her own interior and arrives when she arrives and any pressure from outside only slows the process.

I waited.

Tariq came to me about two weeks later.

He had clearly spoken with Fatima, though she and I didn’t discuss this.

He came to my study and closed the door and stood with his arms folded and asked me directly what was happening.

He was 22 and trying to hold himself in one piece and the effort of it was visible in his face and in the set of his shoulders.

I told him the core of it.

And watching his face while I told him was one of the hardest experiences of my life as a father because in his face I could see everything moving at once.

love for me and fear for me and anger and confusion and grief and underneath all of it a kind of destabilizing disbelief that the man who had been the foundation of his understanding of the world was standing in front of him saying what he was saying.

He asked me how I could do this to the family.

His voice broke slightly when he said it.

He was not cruel.

He was frightened and he was hurt.

And he was asking the most reasonable question a son in his position could ask.

I told him I wasn’t choosing to do something to anyone.

I was telling the truth about what had happened to me, and the truth was not something I had chosen or arranged.

That it was costly did not make it less true.

He left without another word, and I heard the front door close, and I sat in the silence of the study, and held the specific grief of a father who has hurt his son by being honest, and cannot undo the hurt without being dishonest.

That grief sat in me for a long time.

Through Dr.

Ysef’s connection I had by this point.

He made quiet contact with a small group of people from Muslim backgrounds who had come to faith in Jesus and were meeting regularly in someone’s home in one of the outer neighborhoods of Istanbul.

These were ordinary people.

A former academic, a young woman from a conservative family, a retired teacher, a businessman, a few others.

They had each come through their own journey.

And they gathered to read the Bible and pray together in a context where they didn’t have to conceal what they believed.

They were not dramatic or sectarian.

They were simply people trying to live honestly inside something that had found them in a context where that honesty required some care.

The first time I sat with them, I said almost nothing.

I mostly listened.

when they read from Luke and they talked about it the way people talk about something that is alive to them and connected to how they actually live.

Not performing scholarship, not demonstrating theological precision, but genuinely working out what this meant for their real lives.

A woman talked about forgiving someone who had deeply wronged her.

An older man talked about the difference between religious correctness and the peace he had found since he stopped performing and simply rested in what Jesus had done.

I sat there and felt for the first time since the collapse that I was in a room where the gap between my interior truth and what I was allowed to say simply did not exist.

The first time I took communion in that room, months later, after long private wrestling with what it meant, I was not prepared for what happened to me.

As a former Islamic scholar, I understood the Eucharist academically.

I had studied the debates about it, the theological positions, the history.

I understood it analytically.

But kneeling there in that ordinary room, taking that bread and that cup, understanding for the first time from the inside what was being remembered and proclaimed, the weight of it was something no analysis had prepared me for.

that God had not only sent messages or prophets, but had come in person, had entered the full reality of human experience without protecting himself from the worst of it, had taken onto himself personally at real cost.

What separated human beings from God, not as a legal transaction managed from a distance, but as something he chose to bear from the inside.

The cross received not as a theological claim, but as a truth pressing itself into my actual chest, was unlike anything I had encountered in 45 years of religious life.

I wept in that room.

I didn’t try to stop it.

Someone put a hand on my shoulder and nobody said anything.

And we sat in a silence that was the kindest silence I have ever been held inside.

The decision to leave Turkey did not come as a single dramatic moment.

It assembled itself over several months from a series of smaller recognitions.

A letter arrived at the mosque, unsigned, not to my home address, that I will not describe in detail, except to say its tone made the situation feel no longer only personal and theological, but also practical and physical in a new way.

My
position at the mosque had become untenable in an unspoken way.

I was technically still associated but functionally removed from everything and the situation was stable only because nothing had been said publicly and that silence felt increasingly temporary.

My daughters were beginning to experience social friction in a community that was however gently beginning to talk.

And Fatima, whose suggestions I had learned over 20 years to take seriously precisely, because she does not make them lightly, said one evening that perhaps it was time to think about what came next.

There was a network through Dr.

Ysef of people who worked with former Muslims from Muslim majority countries who face difficulty because of their faith.

There was a community in Germany in a city with a significant Turkish diaspora and that had helped others in situations like ours and had extended an offer of support.

The practical path existed.

Walking it meant leaving everything.

We sat together over several evenings and talked about it honestly.

And in those evenings something became clear to me about where Fatima was in her own journey.

She had been reading quietly in her own time without telling me since our kitchen conversation.

She had been praying and she told me one evening with the same quiet precision she brings to everything that she had been praying to Jesus.

Just like that.

No drama, no announcement.

A woman reporting a fact.

She said it and I looked at her and she looked at me and we were on the same side of something enormous.

whatever it had cost us to get to that place and whatever it was going to cost us to keep walking forward.

Ah, we were going to walk it together.

Tariq would not come.

This was the fact I held hardest.

He was 22 and in his studies and in his faith and in his community and he was not at a place where any of this made sense to him and his staying was both completely understandable and completely devastating.

I sat with him alone one evening before we left.

I told him that nothing that had happened changed what I felt for him.

that wherever he was and whatever he believed, he was my son and I was his father, and that distance was practical, not relational.

I told him I would always be reachable.

He was very controlled and quiet, and I could see the effort it cost him.

He said he hoped I knew what I was doing.

I told him honestly that I wasn’t entirely sure, but that I knew I could not stay somewhere being something I wasn’t.

He nodded a one slow nod and I received that nod as the grace it was.

We left Istanbul on a March morning.

I looked at the Bosphorus from the road to the airport, gray and vast in the early light.

I looked at the skyline, at the minouetses, at the city my family had lived in for generations, the city where my father was buried, the city where I had grown into everything I had been for 45 years.

I was leaving it not as a man who had lost his faith, but as a man who had found something he had not been looking for, something that had found him first on a mosque floor and had not released him.

I was afraid.

I was grieving.

And I was underneath both of those things, more at peace than I had been in years.

Those three things were all simultaneously true.

And that simultaneous truth, the fear and the grief and the peace all present at the same time, all real at the same time, is the most honest thing I can tell you about what following Jesus has actually looked like in my life.

It is not one thing.

It is never just one thing.

But the peace does not cancel the grief.

It holds it.

And being held is not nothing.

Being held is everything.

Germany received us the way northern European cities received strangers in early spring with gray sky and clean streets and a complete absence of personal interest in who we were or where we had come from.

after Istanbul, which is a city that is always aware of you, always in some kind of relationship with you, always warm and involved and in your business in the way that cities built on relationship and history always are.

The German indifference was the strangest thing, but it was also unexpectedly a gift.

To be anonymous, to be no one in particular, to walk down a street and be simply a middle-aged Turkish man with his wife, not an imam, not a figure, not a man whose recent history was the subject of any conversation anywhere.

We had arrived with what we could carry, and the contact information Dr.

Ysef had given us.

The community that had offered support was small and modest, mostly Turkish and Arabic-speaking people, meeting in a rented hall in a workingclass neighborhood with a significant immigrant population.

They were not wealthy.

The hall had plastic chairs and a simple table at the front with a cross on it.

And the first time I walked in, I had the strange double experience of feeling the warmth of gathered people in worship which was familiar to every bone in my body and feeling completely disoriented by the form of everything around me.

No adhan, no prayer mats, no rows of men in the particular shoulder-to-shoulder solidarity of salah.

Men and women together, no partition, someone playing a quiet guitar in the corner, a Bible on the table.

I sat in one of those plastic chairs and I held myself very still because everything in me that had been formed by 23 years of being the one who stood at the front, the one whose presence organized the space had to learn something entirely new.

How to simply be a person among other persons.

This was its own kind of lesson and not an easy one.

Not because the people were anything but welcoming.

They were extraordinarily warm with the specific warmth of people who have been through hard things and recognize hard things in others.

but because of what I had to release in order to be there as a learner rather than a teacher.

Identity holds on.

Even when you are willing to let it go, it holds on.

You have to coax it open gently over a long time.

The first months were months of learning to be a different version of myself in a place that didn’t know the previous version.

And this was disorienting and exhausting and occasionally unexpectedly freeing.

Fatima and I were alone together in a way we hadn’t been since the very early years of our marriage before the community and the role and the decades of structured life had built scaffolding around us.

We had to talk to each other about everything because there was no one else.

We had to figure out who we were without any of the external structures we had always lived inside.

This was hard.

There were many difficult conversations between us during those months that I won’t detail here because they are ours, not public property.

What I will say is that we came through them.

And what was between us at the end of those months was different from what had been there before.

Less assumed, more chosen, a love that had been tested and that was still present and had become through the testing something more deliberately itself.

I began attending the community meetings regularly.

I began reading the Bible all the way through for the first time.

Not skipping around, but starting at the beginning and moving forward.

Everything I read, I read through the double lens of someone with decades of Islamic theological training and someone who had been met in a darkness by the person this book was describing.

The double lens was sometimes dizzying.

There were passages that contradicted things I had held as certain for my entire life.

There were passages I had to sit with for days.

There were passages that opened something in me I had no previous language for.

The feeling of a truth that lands not in the thinking part of you, but in the part that is below thought, the part where you actually live.

I was reading the eighth chapter of Paul’s letter to the Romans one evening alone at the small table in our apartment and I came to the passage about nothing being able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus.

nothing, not death, not life, not present things, and not things to come.

I put the Bible down on the table, and I just sat there.

I was a man who had left his country, his community, his mosque, his role, his eldest son’s daily presence, his mother’s understanding, everything he had built, and everything he had been known as.

and sitting in a plain apartment in Germany with a secondhand Bible.

This text was telling me not as a comfort slogan but as a stated fact that none of that loss had separated me from anything that ultimately mattered.

That the thing that had found me on a mosque floor was not put off by the distance I had traveled or the things I had lost along the way.

Nothing.

Nothing shall separate.

I cannot tell you what that was like to receive without sounding like I am performing emotion.

I am not performing.

Oh, I will just say it was one of the moments in my life I would least want to have missed.

Reading the New Testament systematically from inside the experience I had had and with eyes I had not had before showed me things about Jesus that I had not allowed myself to see during all the years I had studied him as a subject.

The Jesus of these pages, not only in the Gospels, but in Paul’s letters and the letters of John and in the entire frame of the New Testament, was not the Jesus I had been arguing about.

He was larger.

He was more personal.

He was more costly in the precise sense that what he chose to do had real cost attached to it.

Cost that he bore and did not distribute.

He was not a figure at a safe theological distance.

He was in these pages someone who had entered human experience without protecting himself from the worst of it, from betrayal, from suffering, from death, and who had done so not as a demonstration of power, but as an expression of love.

Love that did not remain at a distance and send representatives.

love that came in person.

The question of the cross, the central theological objection of my Islamic training, rooted in the Quranic verse that says they did not truly crucify him, was the question I sat with longest and most carefully.

I am not going to tell you I resolved it through a clever argument because I didn’t.

What happened was something different.

Reading the crucifixion accounts in all four gospels, I found details I had not allowed myself to notice before.

Details of the kind that embarrass rather than glorify.

Uh the kind of detail that people inventing a story for its effect don’t include because they diminish rather than enhance the confusion and fear of the disciples.

the undignified physical reality of what was described, the specific strange detail included by eyewitnesses who were clearly recording what they had seen and not what they had hoped to have seen.

And then the historical corroboration, Roman and Jewish sources with no stake in a Christian narrative who nevertheless recorded the execution of Jesus under Pontius Pilate as a historical fact.

But more than the historical case and more than any argument was the theological meaning of it.

And this is where the question stopped being historical and became the most personal thing I had ever encountered.

If the cross is real, it means that God did not respond to the human problem of separation and failure by sending a message or by sending a prophet or by issuing a command.

It means God came himself in person and took unto himself the cost of everything that separates human beings from God.

Not managed from a distance, not delegated personally in a body at real cost.

Cost that he chose, cost that he bore, cost that he did not require anyone else to pay.

There is nothing else like this in any religious tradition.

I had studied nothing.

Not the Islamic God who is merciful and forgiving but who forgives by decision from above.

Not any other framework I knew.

Only here only in the cross is there a God who enters the place of maximum human cost and bears it from the inside.

And that that quality, that specific shocking, unprecedented quality was exactly the quality of the presence I had felt in the darkness of the mosque.

Not a power that commanded from outside, something that had come into the dark place, something that was willing to be where I was.

The pieces were not separate pieces.

They were the same thing seen from different angles.

I was baptized the following spring, 7 months after we arrived in Germany.

It happened in the community hall with about 30 people present, members of the community and a few others who had heard of our situation.

The pastor was a patient German man who had spent months answering my questions without impatience or pressure.

He said the words in German and then in Turkish and I went into the water.

I cannot tell you what baptism felt like for a man who had performed Islamic ritual purification thousands of times who had understood water in worship always within the frame of woodoo.

The washing that prepares a Muslim to approach God.

Going into this water was not preparation to approach.

It was the thing itself.

A going under into the death Jesus died.

a coming up into the life that followed.

Every layer of it as an act was loaded with meaning for a man with my specific history in a way it might not be for someone who had grown up in a Christian household and been baptized in childhood.

Every layer landed.

And when I came up out of that water with the pastor’s hand on my head and people around me in tears and water running down my face, I felt something that I will not try to fully describe because I don’t think description can reach it.

I will only say that it was clean.

Clean in the way holiness is clean.

Clean from the inside.

I called Tariq that evening.

He picked up.

I told him what I had done.

There was a silence and then a conversation that was long and honest and painful and that belongs to us.

At the end of it, he said he didn’t understand it and didn’t know if he ever would, but that I was his father.

He said it simply as a statement and it cost him something to say it and I received it as the gift it was.

We have spoken regularly since then.

The distance between us is not gone.

It is real and it matters and I carry it.

But the relationship is still there, still alive, still his and mine.

I am grateful for that with a depth I don’t have easy words for.

I Fatima’s coming to faith was quiet as everything in her life is quiet.

She had been reading and sitting and praying in her own interior process for months and she arrived when she arrived without announcement or drama.

She simply told me one evening that she believed it was true.

Not a conversion experience with a clear narrative, just a woman who had taken something seriously for long enough that it had become in the way of deep things simply part of what she knew.

She was baptized 2 months after I was I was in the room.

I watched my wife go into the water in the name of Jesus.

And what I felt watching that is not something I will try to put into words because words are not the right container.

I will only say that it was more than I had thought to hope for.

I work now with an organization that supports people from Muslim majority contexts who are navigating what I navigated the faith journey, the family difficulty, the practical realities of leaving a community that formed you.

I do this
work in Turkish and Arabic, occasionally in my improving German.

I am not an imam.

I do not stand at the front of any room.

I sit beside people who are in the hardest part of something very hard and I tell them what I know that the truth is worth the cost.

That the cost is real and does not disappear.

That they will not be alone in it.

This is the most useful work I have ever done.

And I say that having spent 23 years as a community imam in work I loved and believed in.

For the difference is that this work comes from a place I could not have reached without everything that happened to me.

Without the collapse, without the darkness, without the months of war, without the losses, nothing I went through was waste.

Not one day of it.

Not the 23 years of Islamic scholarship which gave me the tools to understand what I was reading when I finally read it honestly.

Not the grief of leaving Turkey.

Not the long nights on the floor of my study in Istanbul.

None of it was waste.

I want to say something to my Muslim brothers and sisters.

If any of them are reading this, I want to say it carefully and I want to say it with the full awareness that I come from where they come from that I was as inside that tradition as any person can be.

I am not saying that Muslims do not love God.

I am not saying that everything in Islam is wrong or that the sincere faith of a sincere Muslim is worthless.

I am saying that I spent 45 years studying and teaching and leading and praying.

And in all of that time, I never actually encountered Jesus.

I encountered a theological description of him.

I encountered arguments about him.

I never simply sat still and looked at him in the gospel accounts without any defensive frame around my looking.

I am asking you to do that one thing.

Read the inil without the apologetic lens.

Read it the way a thirsty person drinks.

Following what seems most alive.

And when you have read it, ask honestly what you see, not what your training says you should see, what you actually see.

And if you have had an experience, a dream, a vision, something in prayer, a something in a dark night that didn’t fit your framework, don’t push it away.

Don’t explain it away with the first available explanation.

Sit with it honestly.

The truth, if it is real, can survive honest examination.

I examined mine for 6 months with everything I had.

It survived.

It was still standing on the other side of everything I could throw at it.

That is not nothing.

To my Christian brothers and sisters, please hold what you have with more awareness of what it cost to get to you.

I am not saying this as a criticism.

I am saying it as someone who paid a price for it that I am still accounting.

The freedom to open a Bible without hiding it.

The freedom to walk into a church building.

The freedom to say the name of Jesus without calculating the consequences.

These are not small things.

They are extraordinary things that you may have grown up inside without fully feeling their weight.

Hold them accordingly and pray for the people in the world for whom these freedoms do not exist.

not as a category but as specific human beings who are navigating this exact thing right now in Muslim majority countries in conservative families in communities where the cost of following Jesus is very concrete and very present and please be Dr.

Ysef Demir to someone, you may never know you’re doing it.

He never preached at me.

He never argued.

He simply lived with consistency and peace from a place that I noticed and could not account for.

And that noticing planted something in me over the months before the collapse that made the ground a little softer when everything cracked open.

You don’t know who is watching you.

When you don’t know what your peace is doing in the people who see it and haven’t told you they see it, live it anyway.

Trust the gravity of the truth to do what argument cannot do.

Let me go back one last time to that night.

I want to go back to the sujud, to the forehead on the carpet, to the position I had been in 10,000 times across 45 years of life.

The lowest position, the position of complete submission, forehead pressed to the floor before God.

I have thought many times about the fact that it was precisely there.

Not while I was teaching, not while I was leading, not while I was constructing arguments or performing my competence or being who the community needed me to be.

But in the moment of maximum leeness, maximum submission that it happened.

I don’t think that was an accident.

I I think God who is extraordinarily precise, who knows every person from the inside, who knew me better than I knew myself, chose that moment and that position to introduce himself to me in a way I could not dismiss.

He chose my mosque.

He chose my sujud.

He chose a Muslim imam in the act of Islamic prostration and met him there in that act in that position because that position was the most honest thing I was doing in everything else I was performing in some measure in the sujud.

I was simply down, simply small, simply a man pressing his forehead to the ground in front of whatever was true.

And what was true showed up.

I said, “Ya Issa” on that mosque floor without choosing to say it.

My body said it or something passing through my body said it before my conscious mind had any say in the matter.

I understand now that this was not an accident either.

The name that came out of me was the name that belonged in that moment.

Not because my theology had arrived there, but because something in me that was deeper than my theology already knew.

I say it now consciously and fully and freely.

Ya Issa every morning before the day begins.

Not as a ritual replacing an old ritual as the address of the realest thing I know.

The person who was in the darkness before I got there.

The person who did not wait for me to finish my arguments or resolve my doubts or make myself worthy of being found.

The person who found me in the position of submission and took the challenge seriously and said yes come and know me.

Come and really know me.

I am still coming.

I will be coming for the rest of my life.

The knowing gets deeper and it does not get finished.

And this is not a frustration.

It is the best thing I have ever found.

A depth that does not run out.

a person who cannot be exhausted.

I am a man who led Islamic prayer for 23 years and was met by Jesus on the floor of a mosque.

I am a man who lost his country and his position and his son’s daily company and his mother’s understanding and who would do it again without hesitation.

And who is not saying that lightly because none of those losses were light.

I am a man who found on the other side of everything it cost not a religion or a system or a new community identity but a person living present knowable who knew my name before I knew his.

His name is Issa.

His name is Jesus.

And he is not who I taught that he was for 45 years.

He is who he says he is.

And that changes everything.

 

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