The Pima County Sheriff’s Department shutting down a Catalina Foothills neighborhood in connection to the Nancy Guthrie investigation.
It is all happening near Orange Grove and First Avenue and Placita de Graciiela and Camino de Michael are now closed down.
Now, Jacob Owens is near the scene covering the latest from there.
And Jacob, uh, what have you learned since we last, uh, checked in with you? Yeah, Sean.
Um, to be clear, we’re in the Shadow Hills neighborhood, as you said, by Orange Grove and First Street, and a ton of law enforcement activity.
We’ve been seeing lines of law enforcement continue to go down.
So, we are at Camino de Michael and Placita de Michael.

Let’s show you from tonight, but this is related to the Nancy Guthrie case.
Um, this presence has been here for 2 hours, and we’re told that law enforcement is fixated on a home out here.
We’re hearing two people have been detained, but the sheriff’s department has not confirmed that yet.
They told us they will not be releasing a press um official statement tonight.
But we’ve seen for ourselves heavy SWAT, heavily armored vehicles um come out along with more than 20 law enforcement vehicles.
Neighbors for at least an hour and a half were not allowed to come in in certain areas.
Um but now we’re beginning to see some let back in.
The Catalina foothills doesn’t look like the kind of place where something like this could happen.
Wide, quiet streets, million-dollar homes set back from the road.
Manicured driveways, neighbors who know each other’s cars, their landscapers, their morning jogging routes.
One of the wealthiest zip codes in the entire state of Arizona.
The kind of neighborhood where crime is so rare that when it does happen, the whole country stops.
And the whole country did stop.
On the night of January the 31st, going into the early hours of February 1st, 2026, an 84 year old woman was taken from inside her home.
Her blood was confirmed on the front porch.
Her doorbell camera went dark at 1:47 in the morning.
And by the time her family realized something was wrong, she was already gone.
Her name is Nancy Guthrie.
Her daughter is Savannah Guthrie, co-anchor of NBC’s Today Show.
And as of today, nearly 2 months later, Nancy has not been found.
But something has changed in this investigation.
Something significant.
The FBI has gone back to that neighborhood, not for a routine check, not to knock on the same doors they knocked on in week one.
According to NewsNation’s senior investigative reporter Brian Enton, the journalist who has spent more time on the ground in Tucson than almost any other reporter covering this case, federal agents have returned with specific pointed name by name questions.
And those questions are focused on a house that sits very close to NY’s front door.
A house that was recently vacant.

A house that a retired SWAT commander from the very same county, Puma County, told Parade magazine in an exclusive interview he believes could have been used as a home base, a staging location, an operational center from which, in his professional assessment, someone watched, waited, and timed every movement on that street before February 1st.
Today we are going inside that house, not physically, forensically, because a retired law enforcement commander with nearly three decades of operational experience in the same terrain where this crime occurred has already walked us through exactly what he believes was happening there.
And what he described, the language he used, the framework he applied should make everyone who has followed this case sit up very straight.
Stay with me because this is where the case is right now and it matters more than most coverage has acknowledged.
Before we go inside, you need to understand who is doing the the talking because credibility in a case like this is everything.
Bob Kreg is not a podcaster with a theory.
He is not a social media commentator chasing views.
He is a retired commander from Puma County’s own SWAT team.
the same county, the same jurisdiction, the same physical terrain where Nancy Guthrie lives and where this crime happened.
He spent his career running high-risk operations in environments exactly like the Catalina foothills.
He knows what those streets look like at Tus 2 in the morning.
He knows what it takes tactically and operationally to execute a targeted mission in that neighborhood and not get caught.
This is not his first time speaking publicly about this case.
In an earlier exclusive with Parade magazine, Cregeria examined the available evidence, the masked suspect on the doorbell camera, the gloves, the holstered weapon, the darkness of the hour, and made a specific measured assessment.
He told Parade, “I do think that this was a very intentional crime.
I think it was targeted and specific to this house.
” He went further.
He said the planning that went into this made it look very intentional.
that the suspect, while not necessarily a sophisticated career criminal, at minimum had a plan and had remained, in his words, relatively quiet since the incident.
Intentional, targeted, planned.
That was his first read on the suspect’s behavior.
Now, in a follow-up parade exclusive published on March 19th, Creger has gone further.
Still, he is no longer just characterizing the suspect’s behavior.
He is characterizing what he believes was the suspect’s physical infrastructure.
He is not just telling Parade that someone had a plan.
He is telling them where, in his professional opinion, he believes that plan was built.
That distinction matters enormously.
And Parade, a national publication, sought Creger out specifically after Brian Enton broke the story about the FBI’s renewed interest in the vacant property.
That tells you something about how seriously this new information is being treated, even beyond what is being said publicly.
Let’s establish exactly what has been reported and by whom, because precision here is what separates serious analysis from noise.
On March 17th, on his YouTube channel, Brian Enon Investigates, Enon told his audience something that had not been publicly reported before, the FBI.
He said based on his law enforcement adjacent sources had returned to the Catalina foothills neighborhood with new specific questions about a rental property nearby.
One that had been vacated by its occupants around the time Nancy disappeared.
His exact words, “There’s one neighbor that moved out before Nancy disappeared, and they have been asking more questions about that situation.
” Enum was careful to note this did not necessarily mean the property was connected to the crime, but federal agents were asking specifically about that house, about whoever lived there, about when they left.
At almost the same time, Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Mack went on air with a completely different account.
According to Mack, the renters of that same property moved out immediately after the kidnapping.
his framing.
They were there until the kidnapping and then gone before or immediately after.
Those are not two interpretations of the same event.
Those are two completely opposite accounts of when those renters left and each one carries a completely different set of implications.
If Enton’s sources are right and the renters left before Nancy disappeared, what we are looking at is a property that went vacant in the operational runup to the abduction.
A property that during whatever period it sat empty had no occupant to report unusual activity, no one to describe comingings and goings, no routine presence that would have flagged an uninvited visitor using the property without permission.
In that scenario, the vacant house in the days before February first is, as Criggier would describe it, a pre-operational gift to anyone who needed eyes on that street without witnesses.
If Max’s account is accurate and the renters left immediately after the kidnapping, the question becomes entirely different.
People who depart a rental in the immediate aftermath of a high-profile abduction in their own neighborhood without notice or apparent explanation are doing something that looks, and this is not an accusation.
This is an investigative observation like removal, not a coincidental move.
removal, the kind of sudden, clean departure that happens when continuing to occupy a location is no longer an option.
The FBI is apparently treating both possibilities seriously.
Because Enton’s framing, they are asking more questions about that situation is not the language of a closed thread.
It is the language of something still unresolved.
One of these reporters is right.
The FBI knows which one.
Now, let’s bring in the neighbors because two of them were asking questions about this house before the FBI came back to ask them.
Neighbor Laura, speaking directly to Brian Enton on camera in her own neighborhood, described what she personally observed.
She told Enton, “There aren’t that many rentals on here, but there is a rental nearby, and whoever lived there had moved out within a few days of this happening.
” She noticed the car was already gone.
She had reasoned backward from the absence of that car.
She clocked it missing at Tommy Inid, some point she experienced as being around the time of the abduction.
She could not say with absolute certainty whether the car disappeared before or after February 1st, but she could say it struck her as unusual enough to make a phone call.
Her words, I thought it’s probably nothing, but I’m going to call and let them know that there was somebody living there and they’re not there anymore.
she called.
Because in a neighborhood that watches itself, that knows every car, every contractor, every routine, a vehicle that simply vanishes from a nearby rental with no moving truck, no goodbye, no announcement, registers as wrong.
Not criminal wrong, just wrong enough to call someone.
And then there is Aldine Meister.
She has lived in the Catalina foothills for nearly 30 years.
She spoke to Brian Enon multiple times across the early weeks of this investigation and she raised the vacant property herself without being prompted in the first days after Nancy disappeared.
Her words to Enton were direct.
The neighbors on the other side of me moved out.
I wanted them to check that house.
Week one.
She flagged it in week one.
6 weeks later, the FBI is asking the specific questions Aldine Meister asked them to ask from the very beginning.
But Meister reported something else as well.
Something that when placed alongside everything Creger has now said publicly, takes on a different weight entirely.
In the weeks before Nancy disappeared, approximately 2 to 3 weeks before, she told Enton she had seen a man walking through the neighborhood who did not belong there.
She could not make out his face.
He was wearing a hat pulled low, hunched over.
Not in walking gear or hiking clothes, street clothes, moving through a neighborhood where everyone fits.
And he did not fit.
Her own words on camera.
I noticed this strange guy with his hat down really low.
He was kind of hunched over, not in walking or hiking gear.
He was dressed in kind of street tummit clothing.
I thought that was weird because that’s not normal.
a man who didn’t belong in a neighborhood where everybody belongs.
Now, hold that image because former FBI agent Jennifer Coffindafer, one of the most consistently credentialed voices publicly analyzing this case, has assessed that the masked individual captured on NY’s doorbell camera, was at her door on January 11th, 3 weeks before the abduction, conducting what Coffin Daffer publicly characterized as a trial run.
That is her professional assessment, not an official FBI statement.
But it is worth noting that the Guthrie family themselves in their most recent public statement specifically asked the community to search their memories for January 11th and January 24th.
Not general time periods, those specific dates.
When a family working in coordination with federal investigators asks the public to focus on two specific evenings, weeks before the crime, it is because those dates carry investigative significance.
If the man Aldine Meister saw hat down, hunched out of place was conducting what Coffin Darer has called a trial run in the weeks before February 1st, then Meister may have seen him.
She may have watched him moving through that street, clocking NY’s home, learning her routines, mapping the gaps, and she noticed.
She reported it.
And the FBI 6 weeks later is doing exactly what she asked from day one.
Now let’s go inside the operational framework that Creia laid out because the language he used with parade is not casual language.
This is the vocabulary of someone who has spent three decades building and executing operations in exactly this kind of residential environment.
He told Prey that investigators could look at a location like the vacant house as a possible home base or staging location for the suspect or suspects.
Those are his words.
Home base, staging location.
In operational terms, a staging location is where you preposition, where you um store what you need, where you return between reconnaissance runs, where you exist in a way that raises no flags because you have a legitimate reason to be there.
You are a renter.
You live next door.
Nobody thinks twice about your car in the driveway.
Creia told Parade that staying in a nearby rental would give someone a cover story to be at those locations at different times.
A cover story, not an alibi.
He made that distinction deliberately.
An alibi explains where you were after something happens.
A cover story justifies your presence in real time before anything has happened at all.
It means someone could be parked on that street, sitting in a car outside a home at midnight.
And if a neighbor glances over and wonders, there is a ready answer.
I live next door.
That is it.
Done.
Nobody calls anyone.
Then Criggier said something more operationally specific.
He told Parade that someone operating out of a nearby vacant property would be in a position to be a little bit more under the radar to see the activity of the neighborhood to see the comingings and goings of people.
The timing of things of all the people including Nancy.
the timing of things, including Nancy.
He is describing in his professional assessment based on nearly 30 years in Puma County law enforcement pre-operational surveillance.
This concept is present in every serious planned abduction.
No one appears one night and improvises an operation of this precision.
They observe first.
They learn the rhythms of a place.
They build a picture of when a target is most vulnerable, most alone, most predictably located.
They map the gaps and from approximately 50 ft away, a conservative estimate for the distance between neighboring properties in the Catalina foothills.
Here is what sustained observation over several weeks can tell you about a home and its occupant.
You can determine what time the bedroom lights go on and off.
You can track the morning routine and the um nighttime one.
You can see which entrance gets used most, the front door or the garage.
You can observe when a car appears in the driveway and when it doesn’t.
You can time the exact gap between when a garage door opens and when it closes.
You can identify which cameras face the street and which ones don’t.
You can determine with reasonable confidence whether someone has overnight visitors or lives alone after dark.
That is not speculation.
That is what 50 ft and several weeks of sustained patient observation buys you.
And we know from the verified publicly reported timeline of NY’s final evening that on January the 31st at 5:32 pm she traveled by Uber to a family dinner.
She was dropped off at home at 9:48 pm By 9:50 pm 2 minutes later, the garage door had closed, confirming she was inside.
The neighborhood was dark.
No visitors, no overnight company.
Then at 1:47 am on February 1st, her doorbell camera disconnected.
It simply went dark.
If someone had been watching that house from a nearby property for any significant period of time before that night in Crear’s professional framework, they would have known that the 948 to 147 window was the operational window.
Almost exactly 4 hours alone, neighborhood quiet, no witnesses.
The masked individual captured on that doorbell camera arrived prepared.
This is confirmed.
Ski mask, gloves, jacket, long pants, a handgun holster on his hip, a 25 L Ozark trail hiker backpack.
The FBI has officially described him as male.
Approximately 5’9 in to 5′ 10 in average build.
Months later, no public identification, no arrest, no named suspect.
This is not what you wear when you act on impulse.
Every expert who has analyzed the footage has said it.
This is kit.
This is preparation for a specific task on a specific night.
Now, here is the detail from Creger’s Parade interview that I believe is the most significant public statement any credentialed expert has made about this case since the FBI released the doorbell camera footage.
He told Parade that a vacant property, and I want to be precise about his exact words here, out of the prying eye of the neighborhood could also be a location to set up surveillance equipment if anyone chose to do so.
And that such equipment could be easily stashed in a structure or on the property without anyone knowing.
That is a retired Puma County SWAT commander professional assessment, not a theory from the internet, not speculation for clicks.
A professional framework from someone who has spent his career understanding exactly how planned operations in this county are built and executed.
Surveillance equipment stashed inside a structure without anyone knowing.
We are no longer talking about someone standing at a window with binoculars.
Kia is describing the possibility in his professional judgment of a physical installation, a camera, a monitoring device, a motion sensor, something capable of observing NY’s home for an extended period without requiring any human presence at all.
A feed someone could access remotely from anywhere while the property appeared completely empty to every neighbor who walked past.
The FBI knows this is operationally possible.
Cre knows it is possible.
And the fact that federal agents returned to that neighborhood weeks into the investigation, specifically to ask questions about that specific property tells you they are at minimum taking this possibility seriously enough to pursue it.
Now, the construction worker thread.
This is the parallel investigation that most coverage has either buried or missed entirely.
And it matters because it tells us something about the shape of the FBI’s current theory.
According to Brian Enton’s reporting, the FBI was not only asking questions about the vacant rental.
Simultaneously, agents were asking residents for the specific individual names of every contractor and construction worker who had worked on houses under construction in the neighborhood in the weeks before Nancy disappeared.
Not company names, not general project descriptions, individual worker names per project, per time frame, every single one.
A resident told NewsNation that a friend of hers, someone with a house under construction nearby, was approached by federal agents and asked to provide the names of every contractor and worker who had been on her property.
All of them.
Why does this matter alongside the vacant house investigation? Because construction workers and renters of a nearby home share a critical operational characteristic, both have legitimate, unremarkable, daily access to a residential neighborhood that would otherwise immediately flag the presence of a stranger.
A pickup truck at a job site at 7:00 in the morning raises no eyebrows.
A crew walking a property line, eating lunch on the street.
All of it blends into the texture of the neighborhood without triggering the watchfulness that an unknown face on foot would immediately trigger.
Construction crews, by the nature of their work, observe things.
They notice which neighbors leave early and which sleep in.
They know which doors face the street.
They work in the same neighborhood for weeks or months.
If someone wanted repeated, legitimate, unremarkable access to observe a specific home, a construction crews presence nearby provides, as Kregear’s framework would describe it, an almost ideal blind.
Former FBI agent Steve Moore, appearing on Ent’s program, offered a precise read on what this level of FBI inquiry means.
He confirmed it means they are retracing steps, but he added the crucial clarification.
Retracing steps is not going backward.
It means they’re moving forward.
Something shook loose.
A new name, a new memory, a new piece of information worth cross-referencing against everything already known.
Two parallel threads.
The vacant rental and the construction workers being pursued simultaneously by federal agents.
In Craig’s operational framework, both represent the same underlying question.
who had legitimate cover to be near NY’s home repeatedly in the weeks before February 1st.
And did someone use that cover to do something that was not legitimate at all? Now, let’s talk about what forensic science tells us about what the FBI’s evidence response team would look for inside that property.
Because this is established investigative methodology, not speculation.
Every human being sheds biological material constantly and involuntarily.
Skin cells deposit on every surface a person contacts regularly.
Hair with felicular cells transfers to upholstery, carpet and floor surfaces.
Saliva transfers to door handles, glass rims, any surface touch near face height.
In a property where someone spent time, even a few weeks, the concentration of what forensic scientists call touch DNA is substantial.
It accumulates in carpet fibers, in the grain of wood surfaces, on door frames and window sills, on the backs of chairs.
The critical factor in a rental property is that the pool of people with documented legitimate reason to be inside is limited and traceable.
The property manager knows who lived there.
Prior tenants can be interviewed and their DNA eliminated from samples through voluntary comparison.
What remains after that elimination process is anomalous biological material from someone with no documented reason to have been in that property.
And here is why that matters so directly to this investigation.
The Puma County Sheriff’s Office has confirmed publicly, Sheriff Nanos said this on record, that mixed DNA was recovered from inside NY’s home.
Genetic material from more than one person that does not belong to Nancy or to anyone in her inner circle.
Nano said publicly, “We believe that we may have some DNA there that may be our suspect.
That sample has challenges.
It is mixed.
The lab has reported difficulty separating the profiles and the process could take up to a year.
Investigators have already turned to genetic genealogy.
The technique that identified the Golden State Killer and Brian Coberger in the University of Idaho case.
But here is what a second crime scene changes entirely.
If the vacant house was used as a staging location, and to be clear, that remains Creger’s professional assessment, not a confirmed fact, then it is not just a neighborhood curiosity.
It is the scene where the planning of an abduction took place.
And if forensic processing of that property yields biological material matching the unknown profile already recovered from inside NY’s home, investigators have something prosecutors rarely get.
Cross scene DNA.
Two separate crime scenes, two separate evidence collection processes, independent chains of custody, same DNA profile in both locations.
The legal question that then cannot be avoided.
Explain your genetic material in both places.
Explained why your DNA is inside an abducted woman’s home and also in the property next door.
That is, as any federal prosecutor will tell you, a fundamentally different evidentary architecture than a single scene sample beyond biological material physical impressions.
Furniture moved to optimize a sight line toward NY’s property leaves.
Compression marks in carpet that cannot be undone without professional restoration.
Scuff marks at a window sill where someone stood repeatedly for extended observation are recoverable.
If surveillance equipment was installed and then removed, the removal itself leaves traces.
mounting holes, adhesive residue with a chemically identifiable signature, cable routting paths along baseboards and window frames, and storage media, micro SD cards, removable flash drives small enough to be overlooked in the urgency of departure that if left behind could contain weeks of recorded footage of NY’s home.
None of this is confirmed to have been found.
The FBI has not disclosed what their processing of that property yielded.
What I am describing is the established forensic methodology.
What any competent evidence response team would systematically search for based on exactly the operational framework described publicly in parade.
Here is the FBI’s response when Newsweek contacted their Phoenix field office directly for comments on the vacant property and the construction worker investigation.
Their written response, we typically don’t respond or reply to independent reporting.
Additionally, as a DOJ rule, we don’t comment on ongoing investigations.
That is a non-statement.
It is the bureaucratic equivalent of a locked door.
And in an investigation where the FBI has made deliberate choices to release information, the doorbell camera footage, the confirmation of blood evidence, the acknowledgement of DNA at the scene, the description of this as a targeted kidnapping, the deliberate choice not to address a specific property is itself meaningful.
They are not saying that property was investigated and cleared.
They are not saying they found nothing of relevance there.
They are saying nothing.
And in this investigation, that specific nothing is a choice.
Former FBI agent Jennifer Coffin Daffer addressed the state of the investigation directly in late March.
Her assessment, NY’s case is redot behind the scenes across every investigative category.
Her words, “Just because we don’t see what the FBI is investigating, I assure you they are drinking from a fire hose with more investigative leads than most cases ever have.
That is a retired federal agent with direct professional knowledge of how these investigations operate red-hot behind the scenes across every category.
Here is what we know with certainty.
And here is what remains reported but unconfirmed because you deserve to know the difference.
What is confirmed? Nancy Guthrie, 84 years old, was reported missing February 1st, 2026.
her.
Blood was confirmed on her front porch.
Her doorbell camera disconnected at 1:47 am A mass suspect armed with a holstered weapon appeared on that camera.
The FBI has described him as male, 5’9 in to 5′ 10 in.
Mixed DNA of unknown origin was recovered from inside her home.
Sheriff Nanos has publicly called this abduction targeted.
The Guthrie family has offered a $1 million reward.
The FBI has offered an additional $100,000.
Over 13,000 tips have been submitted.
Nancy has not been found.
What is reported by credentialed journalists and experts, but not officially confirmed by the FBI, the FBI specific renewed interest in the vacant rental property reported by Brian Enon through law enforcement adjacent sources.
The construction worker nameby-ame investigation also reported by Enton.
The timeline contradiction between Enton and Dave Mack regarding when the renters left.
Creger’s staging location framework.
His professional assessment not an official finding.
Coffender’s trial run assessment regarding January 11th.
Her professional judgment not confirmed by the FBI.
The accomplice theory.
Retired detective Curt Dab’s professional opinion based on publicly available facts.
Every thread reported, every source named, every distinction drawn.
Nancy Guthrie is 84 years old.
She was taken from her home in her pajamas, without her shoes, without her daily medication in the middle of the night.
She is dependent on that medication.
Her family is, in Savannah Guthri’s own words, in agony.
If you were anywhere near the Catalina foothills between January 11th and February 1st, 2026, if you saw a vehicle that seemed out of place, a face that didn’t fit, a light in a window of a supposedly vacant house, a car that was simply there one day and gone the next, the FBI wants to hear from you.
The tip line is 1 800 call FBI.
You can also go directly to tips.
fbi.
gov.
According to Brian Enton’s reporting, the FBI apparently believes someone may have been operating out of a property very close to Nancy Guthy’s front door.
According to retired Puma County SWAT commander Bob Creek, that property in his professional judgment had the characteristics of a home base, a staging location, a place from which someone could watch time and prepare before moving against an 84 year old woman living alone.
The car is gone.
The house is empty.
And the FBI is still trying to account for every minute of what happened inside it.
Nancy Guthrie is still missing.
And we are not stopping until there are answers.
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