I have a tremendous problem with these pastors being deceptive about being wealthy.

That’s it.

If if you’re going to get wealthy out the church and everybody knows this what you’re doing, then tell us like it is and be wealthy.

But quit being deceptive about how you became a multi-millionaire off of the church.

>> Where are the Bentleys, the yachts, and the jets? I cuz I this is a big place.

I don’t know if there’s a garage somewhere or some sort of >> parking spot for the boats.

>> Would you be down to take me in a ride? >> Yeah.

Bentley after G650.

>> Yeah, that’s right.

In my fleet of cars.

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>> Where are the Bentleys, the yachts, and the jets? I cuz I this is a big place.

I don’t know if there’s a garage somewhere or some sort of >> parking spot for the boats.

Would you be down to take me in a ride? >> Yeah.

In your Bentley after G650.

>> Yeah, that’s right.

In my fleet of cars.

No.

You know what? People didn’t mention a jet, did he? >> People like to make up stuff, but I’ve never had a I’ve never I don’t think I’ve ever sat in a Ferrari and they showed me pictures of me driving Ferraris and fleets of cars and Joel’s got his yachts and jets and stuff, but I never respond to it.

I I don’t do them.

>> Wait, so you have no yachts? >> I have no yachts.

>> Wait, I have no jets.

I have no >> You don’t even have one jet? >> I don’t have one jet.

I’ve never owned a jet.

I’ve never owned a yacht or he’s framing it like I don’t own a jet.

Like there’s no way Joe Ostein isn’t flying private.

Either he’s chartering the jet and don’t own it, but you’re flying private.

Like like like it’s it’s I I I see through this stuff so much.

It bothers me because I would like for him to articulate very clearly that I don’t own a jet, but I charter a jet when I travel because you don’t need to own the jet to be flying private.

Chartering jets and you’re traveling a hundred times a year is millions of dollars of spending on a jet.

You don’t need to own it.

But does the church own it? Like be clear about this and quit act like you just living this lifestyle where just driving a Honda Civic and living in a $500,000 house.

I don’t own jets.

I don’t own the church owns it all and I use it.

That like that’s Come on, bro.

Roll it.

>> The fleet of cars or >> So, let’s So, let’s talk through it.

The the the the ministry here, the the church has its its value.

It’s it’s obviously has a ton of people that come in and make donations and there’s donations digitally from the outside.

You don’t take a salary from the church.

>> I don’t take a salary from the church anymore.

I’ve been blessed with book sales and media and other things.

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So, I don’t have to take a salary.

So I can work here for basically no salary and I haven’t for most of the time the 26 years here or so.

So but you know um people like to think it’s all about money and things like that but I’m the ones that want to try to discredit you but it’s no never taking a salary.

It may not be all about the money for Joe Ostein, but when somebody says because he used to take a salary from the he stopped taking a salary in 2005 of a salary of $200,000 a year.

Now, this is the the scam that some of these pastors do and people do it in nonprofits all the time, but just be transparent about what’s going on.

What they do is they’re at the church.

The church has millions of dollars in a budget for marketing.

So Joe Ostein is on television.

Joe Ostein church is broadcast around the world.

Joe Ostein on the back of the church and people’s tithe and offering is building his personal profile to this point.

When Joe Ostein gets to this point because of the church funding and marketing and all the things that the church provide for him, then he sells a book personally.

After the church has elevated his status to here, he go sell a book personally and now he’s making hundreds of millions of dollars off of books, entertainment, and everything from the church elevating his brand.

Like for instance, let me give y’all an example.

When I was when I first started out, I probably was making like $3,000 a month doing YouTube, right? This is a for-profit.

So, I had to build build my audience.

I had to do everything money out of my own pocket.

build build bill build and then now you build a YouTube channel that’s probably worth seven figures.

That’s all done through profit and and investment internally.

Now just read and then now that I have millions and millions and millions of followers if I if I sold a book it’s going to make millions of dollars potentially.

Right now let’s reverse that.

I’m asking you to give me money as a donation for your salvation and that’s building my audience and that’s building my brand and that’s building my my stuff to up here and then I sell a book and now claim it as a personal thing and of course I don’t need a salary
because the church has already helped me get to the point where I can make millions of dollars doing other stuff by building my brand.

What does it say? Oh yeah, the church had a $100 million renovation.

My dad was taught to be whatever holy or a Christian, you need to be poor and you need to think defeated.

And this was years ago.

But is it there is that mindset of, you know, but I just have a different mindset of, man, guys, it cost $100 million to renovate this facility.

I can’t do that with a mindset of, oh, we’re not supposed to have anything.

I got to believe that God will bless you and your businesses.

And I mean, I pray every day for the people that give and support.

And, you know, God, let our gifts and talents come out to the full.

bring us opportunities and contracts.

> I just want people to be honest about it.

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You’re using I’m using research, wisdom, uh, politics, whatever the case may be.

I’m talking about it.

I’m giving you guys a synopsis of it.

You know, I’m doing a studying so you don’t have to study.

I’m doing all of that, right? I’m giving you a certain product that you’re interested in.

To use the Bible and salvation as a product, that to me precludes you from being able to be incredibly wealthy off of that.

Like I I would be totally fine with Joe Ostein saying, “I built up the church.

The church built me up as the head and the personality in the church.

And I sold a book that proceeds go back to the church.

The church wrote a book.

That’s the part that gets me is that the church build you and then you get to personally benefit off of it.

Now, people may disagree.

At the end of the day, I don’t care.

I don’t go to your church.

I don’t support you.

You got to answer to God for this stuff.

It just bothers me that these people do this underhanded stuff where they don’t articulate very clearly how the money game works.

Some of these pastors and I’m said majority of the churches people ain’t making money like this.

Just just these mega churches.

I went and did research on this and I’m going to let this go.

I I I went and did research on this.

I asked ChattyBT through his comprehensive research which took 15 minutes to figure out that how do people actually make money in churches and what people do because I said well you don’t own anything personally as a as a person who starts a church or a nonprofit.

You don’t own anything.

So if people want to manipulate it here’s how they do it.

They create wealth within the church and therefore their family can live off the church’s financials in perpetuity.

That’s why you see a lot of churches passing down legacy preaching, legacy ministry to generation after generation after generation after generation because it’s tax-free money that you can now put all your kids on salary.

You could put your in-laws on salary and everybody can just live off of this church in perpetuity with no taxes.

And if a person wanted to be manipulative, that’s what they would do.

I’m not saying if you run in a functional church and just so happen your family and and kids are ministers, but I’m saying if somebody wanted to game the system, you don’t have to own anything, but the church owns equity.

The church owns property.

The church is making making revenue that pays your salaries for everybody in your family for the next 40, 50 years, 60 years.

That’s why churches buy property.

Some of them if they want to manipulate they’ll go and they’ll buy property and then that property is generating income or they go sell the property and the church gets the money back.

Don’t have to pay no taxes on it and then they just continue to live off of it and they have a housing allowance, food allowance, car allowance, and then they use the the church’s uh digital creative team to make videos and content on social media.

and they’re viral on social media with your ties and offering.

Then they go off and do other personal ventures that make them incredibly rich.

And that’s how the cycle go nonprofit for profit and you just play the two and you become incredibly wealthy.

If you want to do it the bad way, they do the same thing in nonprofits.

They have shell companies and they do all this different stuff because you thinking, “Oh, he only make $50,000 salary.

” No, he don’t.

Because the editing team that they outsource is the company that he owned.

The security team that they outsource the security team that he or she owned.

Therefore, they making money off of the nonprofit when they combine them like that.

And if you want to be malicious, you do it to the extreme.

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You don’t give back.

You don’t do anything else.

You just make money and you and you’ll be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.